Back in college, some friends of mine were organizing a winter skiing trip. When I asked who was in charge of organizing the trip, I was told that Kathy was carrying the ball. I told the person who told me this that bringing a ball on a skiing trip could be potentially dangerous, especially when a klutz like myself is involved, and that really didn't have anything to do with my question. Nobody from that group ever told me about any other skiing trips after that. Some people aren't very good at safety.